Les plombs de scelle de Martijn :

Martijn a ecrit : Cloth seal from the early 18th century showing the length of  the cloth. At the front you see the heraldic weapon of Leiden, at the back the length of the cloth.

Il reste a inserer le revers (tu as efface l'image avant que je puisse l'enregistrer) et tu pourras poster tes autres plombs a la suite.
Michel

très joli plomb.  
Michel, tu te parles? à toi même?  

Non j'ai deplace le sujet ici, car Martijn avait poste ce plomb dans ta partie, il manque le revers car il l'a efface avant que je puisse l'enregistrer.
 

Alors un grand merci à toi! Je comprends.  

Je vous remercie pour votre aide.

Here some other examples from cloth seals from Leiden (it's not my website, I'm not one of the detectoramateurs shown and those were not my finds). But it gives you an impression of the Dutch cloth seals.

http://wf4.nl/Engels/index/indexengelslakenloden1.htm

At the Duth forum: Muntenbodemvondsten.nl I made a table to determine cloth from all over the world (the examples I knew, I get a list of about 158 cities and countries which had cloth seals). It' s a pitty it's in Dutch, but you can get an overview of the cloth seals from Holland. Ps. You have to log in.

http://www.muntenbodemvondsten.nl/

I only give the link to those sites to give you an impression of the Dutch cloth seals.

Ps. It might be that someone of you found a cloth seal from Leiden in France (characteristic is the crossed keys in the arms of Leiden (don't confuse it with the cloth seals from Bremen (Germany) or the hemp- and flexseals from Riga (the often contain an x above the crossed keys)). A Gilden Fleece is also seen (bombazine). Often the name 'Leyden' is mentioned.

Please let me know if you found one (I'm doing a research to the dissemination of Leiden cloth seals, for museum De Lakenhal in Leiden. (clothseal@gmail.com or Lakenlood@gmail.com).

A pdf for the ones that are interested in cloth seals:
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=geoff%20egan%20pdf&source=web&cd=8&sqi=2&ved=0CGAQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdiscovery.ucl.ac.uk%2F1349956%2F1%2F488665.pdf&ei=lAs2UcyqKoiO0AXO6IGgBw&usg=AFQjCNGyd91VQIDr2-9EcRaGv6HsIKjPtw

Thanks Martijn,
I knew the first site which is very interesting for these lead seals of the Netherlands.

"Image removed due to third party copyright"

c'est de ce fait beaucoup moins intéressant.

The cloth seal shown in this topic is my own. I only placed the link to show more examples. I could show more examples from my own collection, but on one way it seems difficult to upload the pictures.

The cloth seal is found in the centre of the Netherlands, but is brought up the field by manure (dirt) from the city Amsterdam.

voici comment inserer une photo :

https://echange-passion.superforum.fr/t1432-comment-inserer-une-photo?highlight=comment+inserer+une+photo

Merci, super